Notes below on how I'm showing just how big, or small, the packs are. The packs on the detail pages will be accompanied by a circumference profile that looks like 37 / 37 / 38 to make pack comparison easy.

Comparing different brands of packs by using their circumferences is a more accurate way to compare them than comparing manufacturers stated volumes because there is no standard for measuring volumes. A Zero-Sarc for instance is 37" in circumference at the top and a Super Sarc 42". I will show 3 circumferences for each pack; the top at the drawstring, the mid-level, and the bottom. This is the easiest way to compare a pack you may now have with one of ours.

To get the volume of your current pack: Measure the circumference with a tape. If it is 38" divide 38 by 3.14 (Pi). That = 12.12. That is the Diameter of the pack. Divide this by 2. That gives the radius of the pack which is 6.05. To get the cross section area of any pack just multiply the radius by itself ( in this case 6.05 x 6.05 ) and then mutiply that by 3.14; 6.05 x 6.05 x 3.14 = 114.93" The radius is always mutiplied by itself and always by 3.14. To get the volume of the pack or the load, multiply the cross-sectional area by the length of the load or the pack bag, whichever you are trying to figure. In this case the cross-section is 114.93". Let's say the length of the pack bag to the top of the drawstring is 25". The volume would be 114.93 x 25 = 2873.25"

To help you figure volumes of various pack bags here is a chart showing the cross-section volume of various circumferences: Simply multiply these cross-section numbers by the pack length you would like - or height of the load. The C is the cross-section figure for the given circumference number.

_____ 33" C= 87"__34" C= 92"__35" C= 97"__ 36" C=103" __37" C=109" __38" C=115" __39" C=121" __40" C=127" __41" C=134"__42" C=141"__43" C=147" __44" C=154" __45" C=161" __46" C=168" __47" C=176

__48" C=183"__49" C=191"__50" C=199"

Just pull your packs circumference from the list above and multiply it by whatever height number you want. Our LBP 36 (36" circumference) to the top of a 23" frame is; 23 x 103 = 2369 cuin. It's maximum bag height would be 34". That's; 34x103=3502 cuin. but that leaves no bag to draw up with the drawstring. A 28" height is more reasonable; 28x103=2884 cuin.

It gets a bit more complicated with packs that taper. The easiest thing to do with say a pack that is 28" long that tapers, is to divide it into 3 equal height cross-sections and figure each 9.33" tall section separately and then add the sections together.

For comparing one pack to another, the quickest way is to just compare their circumferences. Here's the profile of a typical Zero-Sarc: top circumference 37" / middle 39." / bottom 40.5"

Untapered 0-Sarc (the Chasm): 40.5" / 40.5" / 40.5" ( we will be making these a hair larger at 41" )

Popcan; a 0-Sarc that gets bigger at the top than even the Chasm to accept a bear cannister but still has a narrower 0-Sarc bottom: 43" / 42" / 40.5"

Super-Sarc: 42" / 42" / 42" - Bear cannister size all the way down.

Super-Sarc+1 ( Beginning of Denali UnLtd Series ): 43" / 43" / 43"

LBP packs are all straight cut also - the various sizes being 36, 37, 38, 39

The volume info I have posted is mostly so that people can compare different packs on a relative basis. If somebody has a pack they like the volume of and want to get a similar volume pack from us, then they can use these ' tools' without even getting the actual volume numbers. It is also a way to compare any pack with another on the open market without having to rely on what the manufacturer says the volume is. The method of listing circumference numbers could become some kind of standard like listing cuin.

When you figure the volume of a pack with the cylindrical formula method, that only represents it's maximum possible volume. When packs are packed the most efficiently, flatter against the back in more of a rectangular shape, they actually have less volume. For now, the quickest way to compare any two packs is simply to get the tape measure out. To be safe do not rely on stated volumes when comparing different brands.

Do this fun experiment: Take a square that is 7.5" on one side and figure the surface area of the square. It's perimeter is 30". ( Answer 56.25 square inches )

Next figure the surface area of a rectangle that is 5" on one side and 10" on the other. It's perimeter is 30" ( answer 50 square inches )

Now figure the surface area of a 30" circumference circle. (answer 71.55 square inches !!! )

Have you ever measured the circumference of a circle or the circumference of a pack and then turned those numbers ( like 30" ) into a more familiar pattern like the rectangles above to figure the surface area because you did not know the formula for the area of a circle? Now you know what happens and maybe why there is so much discrepency in listed volume numbers industry-wide. Manufactures measure volume by filling a pack with some medium like ping pong balls and dump them into a box and then measuring the box.